Sophia Cheng and Emma Palmer in conversation with Judith Anderson. Sophia is developing a collaborative creative project involving personal stories from self-identifying women wrestling with these two topics at the same time. She and her colleagues want to challenge the taboo and put this conversation on the map, NOT to position one woman against another but explore all the nuances around how the climate crisis is shaping how (and if) we mother. Emma's book Other Than Mother - Choosing Childlessness with Life in Mind (Earth Books 2016) was groundbreaking in exploring the terrain of this decision-making process, including the cultural changes brought about by the rise in voluntary childlessness. ecological and environmental considerations and living with the decision.