Climate Crisis Conversations
Dr Renée Lertzman on being an earthling, the climate crisis and falling in love

Dr Renée Lertzman on being an earthling, the climate crisis and falling in love

March 13, 2020

In this Podcast Renee Lertzman talks about 'this moment we are in now', collective awakening and how to respond emotionally without shame or judgement with Caroline Hickman. They talk about the vulnerability faced in ‘speaking’, fears about being openly angry, and falling in love. Renee discusses themes explored in her recent Ted talk, windows of tolerance, attunement, climate anxiety in relation to action, and why it's so hard when things are so urgent. And she swears - just enough!

https://reneelertzman.com

Recent TED talk

Talking climate change in the therapy room

Talking climate change in the therapy room

February 15, 2020
Tree Staunton, Clinical Director of BCPC talks with Caroline Hickman about our current climate and biodiversity crisis, and the important role that psychotherapists may have in facing these difficult truths, and supporting a self -reflective dialogue about our relationship to the world around us as well as our responsibility for it.
 
Asking many questions and not necessarily providing all the answers, they discuss many issues and dilemmas for practice especially how we can nourish a level of deep listening and engagement which may lead to empowerment and appropriate action.

 

Did we Care When Birds and Animals Died during the Sixth Extinction?

Did we Care When Birds and Animals Died during the Sixth Extinction?

February 15, 2020

In this podcast Sally Weintrobe, psychoanalyst and editor of Engaging with Climate Change, is in conversation with Caroline Hickman about the natural relationship which children have with animals. They feel close to them and fascinated by them. Sally sees our prevailing culture of un-care as working to break links between humans and animals and to invite us to treat animals (and the animal we are) as “distanced others”. How are we facing the Sixth Mass Extinction? Can children help adults repair their inner representations of the natural world and our place in it? The danger is animals will die in their millions without being sufficiently loved to be mourned and fought for. Children are as Vaclav Havel put it “pre-political”, meaning not yet so influenced by culture. The pre-political is, however, deeply political. 

From Anxiety to Agency: stepping up, rather than shutting down, in the face of the climate change crisis

From Anxiety to Agency: stepping up, rather than shutting down, in the face of the climate change crisis

February 11, 2020

Clover Hogan is a 20-year-old climate activist, researcher on eco-anxiety, and the founder of Force of Nature

 In this Podcast, Clover Hogan talks with Caroline Hickman about how depth psychology transformed her approach to her activism, the role of holding despair and optimism in the same breath, and her path to igniting agency in a diversity of audiences - from Wall Street bankers, to 11-year-old students in the classroom. 

Rebellion is for life not just Extinction; focussing on a regenerative culture

Rebellion is for life not just Extinction; focussing on a regenerative culture

January 28, 2020

Two Extinction Rebellion activists reflect with Wendy Hollway of CPA on their experiences with Extinction Rebellion from 2018 through  wellbeing roles in the Uprisings in London and active engagement in  XR locally. They speak of deep experiences and learnings from focusing on growing the group's regenerative culture. Structures that build awareness and support emotional processing, so necessary for engaging with the reality of climate and ecological crises, have the potential to bring transformation for XR and ultimately wider society.

What is Climate Psychology? A way of listening

What is Climate Psychology? A way of listening

November 19, 2019

Climate psychology gives us a method of listening to peoples' experience of climate change which can inform how we talk to friends, family and colleagues, how counsellors/therapists could listen to peoples’ worries and how researchers could investigate it.  

Paul Hoggett in conversation with Verity Sharp and Caroline Hickman. Paul, with Adrian Tait founded the Climate Psychology Alliance in 2012. In this podcast he draws upon his experience of being a social scientist and psychotherapist to explore the nature of ‘deep listening’. In the process the conversation also examines some of the essential themes of climate psychology such as the nature of denial and disavowal, the connections between thinking, feeling and acting, and how to "stay with" and manage the disturbing feelings, conflicts and dilemmas provoked by awareness of the climate crisis.

Eco-anxiety, eco-despair, eco-depression, eco-grief? Or maybe …..eco-empathy?

Eco-anxiety, eco-despair, eco-depression, eco-grief? Or maybe …..eco-empathy?

October 13, 2019

Verity Sharp & Caroline Hickman try to wrap their heads and hearts around eco-anxiety for the second time following their first discussion in BBC Radio 4's "Costing The Earth" in April 2019. They may have to talk again in a few weeks. It’s all changing so fast.

What’s under the surface of attacks on school strikers?

What’s under the surface of attacks on school strikers?

October 5, 2019

Many of us were inspired to see children marching in the Youth Climate Strike on 20th September, including in war-torn areas where they were putting their lives at risk in order to  to speak out.

It’s hard to avoid the thought that the children are the adults, whilst the grown-ups are like children.

On the other side, taking attention away from the children are the nay-sayers. Could it be that those adults who criticise cannot process their own feelings and have to get rid of the protesting children, sending them "back to school”? Verity Sharp and Caroline Hickman discuss this disturbing phenomenon.

Can ancient myths help transform the narratives that led to the climate change crisis

Can ancient myths help transform the narratives that led to the climate change crisis

September 28, 2019

A conversation about “myth” and its relevance to the climate emergency between Jo Blake, who works across the disciplines of storytelling, theatre and dance and Sarah Deco, art therapist, group analyst, story teller, with a long connection to the Climate Psychology Alliance. How can working with the nuanced nature of myth and story be emotionally nourishing for us on a planet where destructive binary narratives of endless growth and separation from nature hold sway?

Climate Change: Finding the silver lining part 2

Climate Change: Finding the silver lining part 2

September 17, 2019

It is easy to forget that the majority of Environmental destruction has taken place within just one human lifetime... So imagine: what might be achieved in the next? 

Overwhelm, grief and terror are the first emotions which come to mind when young Environmentalist Martha Stringer discusses the future. And yet, through discussion with psychotherapist Caroline Hickman, she recognises the huge potential for unity, imagination and shared meaning which the Climate Crisis brings.  

In the first part of the interview, Martha described her work in Bath Youth Climate Alliance and discusses the value of ‘Imperfect Environmentalism’.

In this, part two, Martha and Caroline explore the concept of generational accountability and the power of shared guilt.

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